Pair it with good shell velocity and low travel time, and you can have a powerful gun setup. Dispersion is a powerful knob to turn, even at 12-18 km range (which is where battleship actually get effective). If it has 11600 (tirpitz level) damage and 2.3 RoF (again tirpitz level), it will already be on par with Montana in dps, with 33% more firepower front. Yamato guns are better at those ranges, but not by a huge margin (10% generally). If Montana can penetrate stuff, so could 15"/45 french gun. Up to 10km its better, at 20km its slightly worse. Not sure what software you used, but French 15"/45 gun according to tests had better short range penetration then US 16" super heavies. Either the risk of permanently losing a turret is kept very low, or this should be implemented. I had the same opinion, but then it was pointed out to me that the Richelieu's guns could, in fact, elevate separately, and therefore were not sleeved together.Īs for the separation of a turret in two groups. Do you think it would be possible to have two gungroups for a turret and lose only one of those gungroups permanently at a time instead of the whole turret? Now this could be useful because the loss of an entire turret would result in a much higher loss of firepower than for any other ship which has double or even triple turrets. Due to the size of the turret and the number of guns, the two guns to either side were sleeved together instead of being individually sleeved (meaning they elevated together). The turrets on Dunkerque and Richelieu (and probably would have on Normandie, Lyon and Alsace) had a central bulkhead that separated the two guns on either side. Edited Februby RamirezKuritaĭo you guys think the gns on the ships could be sleeved in pairs instead of all-in-one? What I mean is this: The only way an Alsace design would work at T10 is if there is some design proposal that I'm not aware of that is significantly larger than the others, likely equipped with either 4x4 380mm guns (which would be an amazing cruiser and DD hunter due to the number of projectiles) or a 3x4 406mm version. Even the 3x3 406mm Alsace designs are basically just rehashes of the Iowas, so not T10 material again. T10 battleship gameplay is the playing ground of the 70,000 ton superbattleships, not regular 45,000 ton battleships. Having a bit more firepower on the front, coupled with some improved AA and a slightly greater speed can be a reason for it to be a tier higher than the Bismarcks, but not 2 tiers difference to put them into T10. This overall means that an Alsace with 4x3 380mm guns would have about 33% more DPM on the front than the Bismarcks (the same as a Richelieu), but a simlar broadside DPM. They were famed for their high rate of fire due to extremely efficient ammunition hoists, however the French 380mm guns didn't have nearly as efficient hoists so their fire rate was notably lower, not even reaching the 2 RPM of standard battleships even during trials even on the improved design on the Jean Bart, compared to the German guns which could reach 3 RPM during trials. The reason why the Bismarck's guns work at T8 is because of their high fire rate, coupled with a modern shell design (although the French shell designs were similarly modern, so they would likely have similar effectiveness to the Germans for a given calibre). There's only so much a 1940ish 45,000 ton design is capable of, and trying to shoehorn it into T10 would basically involve throwing historical accuracy out of the window. The problem with trying to get the Alsace at T10 is that, in terms of displacement and age, they are all T9 material.
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